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Originally Posted by Dizzy47
wooooooooooooW wtf just happened

Anyone who cannot see the rigg after tonite, mainly in the silver market is a complete RETARD period.

now they can just close all the silver mines round the globe for who in their right mind would keep on digging the stuff

seriously, that would be such a blow to the Cartel

freaking bastards,

I wonder who will sell at these prices

the longer down here the bigger the shortage will become

U.S. mint suspends gold coin sales; futures price is a fiction !!!!!!!
Submitted by cpowell on Fri, 2008-08-15 04:27. Section: Daily Dispatches

12:25a ET Friday, August 15, 2008

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

The U.S. Mint has suspended sales of American Eagle gold coins and is refusing orders from dealers, two coin and bullion dealers confirmed Thursday.

http://gata.org/node/6489

I bet freaking Goldman and the 8 large shorts are covering like there's no tomorrow

look how it fits Goldman, aug 13 Tocom session they covered a massive amount of 1,427 short contracts and sold 27 long contracts to bring their long position to 779 contracts and their net short position to 4,962 contracts.

is this their last chance to come out clean of shorts before the huge price run up?

It doesn't seem to matter whether shortages exist or not.....when you can have a 10% drop in a price in less than a few minutes, as what happened with silver today, you no longer have a market. This PM disaster has taken place EXACTLY when the opposite should have occurred. July had the highest inflation rate in 17 years, we have a chance for a new world war, and we have this crap happening. Sorry, but we can no longer make any suggestions as to what any of the PM's will do. It's over....I've been reading from all sorts of folks as to how the boys are out of ammo, that they can't control things, yada yada, for several years now. When you have this kind of action, there is no point in trying to make any suggestions as to what any institution will or will not do.

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Wag the Dog: How to Conceal Massive Economic Collapse

by Ellen Brown - August 15, 2008

....."There’s a crisis in the White House, and to save the election, they’d have to fake a war."

Perhaps that explains the sudden breakout of war in the Eurasian country of Georgia on August 8, just 3 months before the November elections. August 8 was the day the Olympic Games began in Beijing, a distraction that may have been timed to keep China from intervening on Russia’s behalf. The mainstream media version of events is that Russia, the bully on the block, invaded its tiny neighbor Georgia; but not all commentators agree. Mikhail Gorbachev, writing in The Washington Post on August 12, observed:

"What happened on the night of Aug. 7 is beyond comprehension. The Georgian military attacked the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali with multiple rocket launchers designed to devastate large areas. Russia had to respond. To accuse it of aggression against "small, defenseless Georgia" is not just hypocritical but shows a lack of humanity. . . . The Georgian leadership could do this only with the perceived support and encouragement of a much more powerful force."4

Bruce Gagnon, coordinator of the Global Network against Weapons and Nuclear Power, commented in OpEdNews on August 11:

"The U.S. has long been involved in supporting ‘freedom movements’ throughout this region that have been attempting to replace Russian influence with U.S. corporate control. The CIA, National Endowment for Democracy . . . , and Freedom House (includes Zbigniew Brzezinski, former CIA director James Woolsey, and Obama foreign policy adviser Anthony Lake) have been key funders and supporters of placing politicians in power throughout Central Asia that would play ball with ‘our side’. . . . None of this is about the good guys versus the bad guys. It is power bloc politics . . . . Big money is at stake . . . . Both parties (Republican and Democrat) share a bi-partisan history and agenda of advancing corporate interests in this part of the world. Obama’s advisers, just like McCain’s (one of his top advisers was recently a lobbyist for the current government in Georgia) are thick in this stew."5 Brzezinski, who is now Obama’s adviser, was Jimmy Carter’s foreign policy adviser in the 1970s. He also served in the 1970s as director of the Trilateral Commission, which he co-founded with David Rockefeller Sr., considered by some to be the "master spider" of the Wall Street banking network.6 Brzezinski later boasted of drawing Russia into war with Afghanistan in 1979, "giving to the Soviet Union its Vietnam War."7 Is the Georgia affair an attempted repeat of that coup? Mike Whitney, a popular Internet commentator, observed on August 11:

"Washington’s bloody fingerprints are all over the invasion of South Ossetia. Georgia President Mikhail Saakashvili would never dream of launching a massive military attack unless he got explicit orders from his bosses at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. After all, Saakashvili owes his entire political career to American power-brokers and US intelligence agencies. If he disobeyed them, he’d be gone in a fortnight. Besides an operation like this takes months of planning and logistical support; especially if it’s perfectly timed to coincide with the beginning of the Olympic games. (another petty neocon touch) That means Pentagon planners must have been working hand in hand with Georgian generals for months in advance. Nothing was left to chance."8


Part of that careful planning may have been the unprecedented propping up of the dollar and bombing of gold and oil the week before the curtain opened on the scene. Gold and oil had to be pushed down hard to give them room to rise before anyone shouted "hyperinflation!" As we watch the curtain rise on war in Eurasia, it is well to remember that things are not always as they seem. Markets are manipulated and wars are staged by Grand Chessmen behind the scenes......

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9828

....man möchte es ja lieber nicht glauben aber Politik/Macht sind wohl wirklich nur noch ein Drecksgeschäft

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that's it lunar - nicht mehr und nicht weniger.



Die Befürchtung hatte ich schon, seit ich die posts
von sit im Frühjahr las.

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Silverbay...ich/man sollte (noch) mehr lesen aber auch anderen Stoff

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Some clarity from Bill Buckler aka: The Privateer
It is tempting to come to the conclusion that the huge spike in the USDX which gathered momentum early this week and then broke its bonds on August 8 is some kind of clandestine international US Dollar intervention. There have certainly been no lack of precedents for such actions over the past two decades. Indeed, in mid July as the CRB index and the oil price were peaking, there was a short-lived series of articles in the US financial press arguing the case for another episode of "co-ordinated" currency intervention.

But we think the US Dollar surge on August 8 has a much simpler explanation. Similar to what happened to US stock markets in the wake of the SEC's decision to outlaw "naked short selling" on Fannie, Freddie and seventeen other US financial stocks, this was a plain and simple short cover rally.

If this is the case, and we think it is, then the USDX may have more rises ahead of it in the immediate future. The short interest in the US Dollar is vast and has been built up over many years. But a short cover rally on the US Dollar is also dangerous in the extreme to not only the US but to the global financial and monetary system.

Shorts are captive buyers, they must buy to take their profits. Once they close out their positions by buying, their ability to cushion falls in the market is no longer there. As Doug Noland puts it: "If today's dislocation develops into a significant unwind of these positions (short the US Dollar), the market then immediately becomes vulnerable to a disorderly 'melt up' followed almost inevibably by a sharp reversal and disorderly decline." Doug is very polite here. We would call it a sucker rally followed by a bloodbath.

The "hedge" against the freefall of financial paper markets - the commodities price boom - has turned turtle. On top of that, the hedge against the currency backing this financial paper - the US Dollar - has started to unwind in a huge short cover rally. Foreign holders of US Dollar denominated debt instruments have had presented to them a (you should pardon the expression) "golden" opportunity to take advantage of this rally to start selling their $US paper. So have foreign central banks, who may well have participated in the short cover rally itself.

Gold (and Silver) are commodities, that is true. But they are also alternative MONEYS. In the final analysis, if one wants to protect one's future purchasing power against the regulatory destruction now being perpetrated on the global financial system, there is nowhere else to go. That is why they are so detested by all politicians and all commercial and central bankers. They are the one means to get OUTSIDE the system, and those who run the system literally cannot afford for anyone to break ranks in the current mess.

We have no idea how long this US Dollar rally can last and how high it will go. We are certein that once it runs out of steam, the US Dollar will plummet again. When any market, no matter how large or "vital", loses its "captive buyers", a subsequent massive fall is absolutely assured.

And what of Gold's short interest? Well, the "longs" have certainly run for the exits on the paper futures markets but the "shorts" have not filled the hole they left. Open interest on Gold is down by almost 120,000 contracts or nearly 25% since it peaked at 496,778 contracts on July 18.

Permission hereby given to
quote short excerpts - provided

full attribution is given:
© 2008 - The Privateer
http://www.the-privateer.com
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....ob es so ist/kommen wird aber es zeigt doch erschreckend wie alles zum Spielball der GeldMafia geworden ist nicht, dass das früher nicht war - aber jetzt doch in einem enormen Ausmass und weltweit

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Q2 GDP: Gross Leveraged Lie


Jim Willie CB is the editor of the "Hat Trick Letter"
Aug 15, 2008

.....### THE USGOVT G.D.P. FOR 2Q2008 SHOULD HAVE BEEN MINUS 2% ###

Here are the highlighted basic facts from the official USGovt economic growth GDP lie:

• The USGovt agency used a 1.1% annualized Deflator for inflation adjustment, which is absurd given the skyrocketing costs that quarter in every conceivable corner.
• Even the falsified CPI was registered at close to 5% on successive months within the second quarter.
• So the Deflator was 4% wrong high, even versus internal USGovt calculations.
• To be consistent within its own corrupted statistics, the nearly 2% GDP growth should have been published as a minus 2% result, a loud recession reading.
• The last two official GDP readings would have been -0.9% in Q1, -2% in Q2, back-to-back negatives for quarterly GDPs.
• Accelerating economic recession with heavy price inflation is nasty STAGFLATION......

.....The USDollar, via its DX index, has filled in a technical thin region between 73.5 and 76.5, and did so fast. Notice how in early June another milder but powerful surge was executed, again when the financial system seemed crippled. What has ensued actually makes possible the next serious decline in coming months. Notice the crystal clear symmetry in the chart, as the rise was as sudden as the fall. That spells instability for an easily occurring correction back down again. The US$ DX index has benefited not from inherent strength, but from relative weakness being realized in the euro. The British pound has also suffered steep declines, as forecasted here in the last several private reports. Even the Canadian Dollar has fallen. The Competing Currency Wars are at work, overtime. The USDollar is not gaining strength at all. It looks incredibly vulnerable. What has changed is that the US$ alternatives have vanished quickly......

......The Powerz are attempting to push down gold and dollar up as much as possible before the orchestrated autumn bank sector PULLED PLUG. Dozens of US banks are going to go bust. Also, the geopolitical chessboard seems badly tilted, adding to US financial vulnerability to the extreme. The Global War for Energy just witnessed a serious counter-attack by Putin. He must have looked into the US president's eyes last month at the summit and seen little to impress, along with a lame duck in office. The tsunami should come this autumn, one to inflict serious damage on the USDollar. The gold trade is still an anti-US$ trade. A difficult transition is in progress for gold to become the global monetary inflation trade. A new foundation on futures contracts must be built. The past gold trade built upon anti-US$ foundation has been largely eroded. The next one to be built upon monetary ease and huge accommodation by major and secondary central banks, in reaction to global recession. A tough transition must occur. Soon gold is to become the hedge against global monetary inflation, as central banks fight at least a Western world economic recession, that includes Japan, Australia, and New Zealand.

The USDollar fundamentals remain extraordinarily weak, and weaker than just a couple months ago. USGovt deficits have doubled in the last year. Tax revenues are way down, like 10% down annually, another confirmation of the recession. Foreclosures for US homes rose by 55% in July, a sign of continued nightmare. Housing prices are accelerating down, as lending institutions holding properties have begun to cave in on price to sell at a time when foreclosures continue in their other doors. The new reality in the housing industry is that two markets are apparent and at work, one influencing the other. There are houses demanded and supplied for the public. There are foreclosures entering and being disposed. In recent months, the foreclosed properties are increasingly dominant, not only making up 30% to 40% of final sales, but continuing relentlessly to supply more homes to be sold, upsetting the balance......

full story: http://www.321gold.com/editorials/w...llie081508.html


...er sieht's ja ziemlich düster wenn es mir auch realistisch scheint
aber eben - man weiss ja nie was die GeldMafia noch alles aus dem Hut zaubert

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...der Weg nach oben :o - Posted by honey

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15 hours ago - Nasdaq

Saturday, 16 August 2008 07:52

BOND REPORT: Treasurys Rise After Economic, TIC Data
getting a boost from a jump in foreign purchases of U.S. assets in June, as traders also digested reports showing a rise in U.S. factory output and tentative recovery in New York state manufacturing.

Ten-year Treasury note yields (UST10Y), which move inversely to prices, fell 3 basis points to 3.862%.

Two-year note yields (UST2YR) slipped 5 basis points to 2.391%. 'Yields headed south into the better round of June TIC data,' said analysts at Action...

READ FULL ARTICLE


Jim Sinclair schreibt dazu:
.....You also know about the odd Fed statement that the Begging Bowl loan window might open to non-US financial entities. The recent TIC report of Treasury purchases by non-US sources raises the question of whether non-US entities are already at the US Fed Begging Bowl loan window. The reason I say this is that the Begging Bowl pays in US Treasury issues, not cash, in exchange for garbage OTC derivative paper as securitized instruments. That would trigger a TIC positive event reporting that non-US entities have bought US Treasury instruments.

....hat da jemand Wissen/Meinung dazu Begging Bowl - der Zauberhut Paulson/FED

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IT'S A MUST!!! PAY ATTENTION HERE!!!
Just listen to this and think a bit. We met the enemy and the enemy is us!

http://cyclesman.com/Interviews/JohnTony081508.mp3



...das ist eine harte Nuss - aber wirklich "it's a must" ob einem jetzt die Ansichten passen oder nicht :o es ist lang und ziemlich mühsam, da die Lautstärken unterschiedlich sind - aber wirklich es lohnt sich

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das hört sich wohl so an, wie vermutet.

La "FED" redete die Rezession hoch und
nun « schwingen » wir directly into the
depression / deflation klingt hier etwas
blumiger.

Die ganze "kaka", wie mein kleiner zu
sagen pflegt, ist bereits von den "war-
lords" angerichtet – einmal sehen, wer
nun zu Tisch gebeten wird.

Klar ist, dass die letztliche Bestätigung einer
Deflation Washington zum allerletzten Mittel
greifen lässt – ich hoffe, dass dies irgendwie
verhindert werden kann.

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15 August 2008

Three Scenarios for the US Dollar and Equity Rallies


As you may have noticed we have been experiencing a powerful counter-trend rally in the US dollar and financials assets including stocks, especially the financials and the broader indices like the Russell, and the US Bonds. Certain commodities like oil, gold and silver have gotten beaten like a rented mule. Why has this occurred with such sudden power?

Here are several scenarios worth considering.

1. Short Squeeze and Forced Liquidation: The "sell dollar and buy energy and metals" trade had become vastly overdone, the big players noticed this, and are using their Wall Street ways to force out the funds and specs that were holding this trade. We consider this a high probability because of the sharpness and violence of the move which has all the hallmarks of a forced liquidation and short covering. Considering that this move has been progressing on low summer volumes during the Olympics in China lends credibility to a calculated trading gambit.
   
   There may also be some government intervention involved over the short term as a 'spark.' There is a disinformation effort tied to specific objectives, such as option expiration and unloading 'dog stocks' along with the usual mindless optimism of the prompter readers. The banks may be intentionally crowding out the hedge funds from short term liquidity for a trade, since they don't have many other sources of income and they require the capital anyway. 'Betraying your customer when the chips are down' is a time honored tradition on the Street, face-ripping-wise. And most importantly so far the moves are well within the parameters of corrective rallies on most of the charts, especially the dollar, stocks and gold.
2. Government Sponsored Reflation: In contrast to a simpler government intervention, a government sponsored reflation is a longer term effort to lift the markets against the tide through the judicious application of liquidity in repetitive tranches of less than three months overlapping. On our long term Dow chart we have identified a couple periods after the 2000-2002 tech bust that we consider reflationary attempts by the US Treasury and the Fed that inflated bubbles in various markets including stocks and housing. This is a medium probability.
   
   It will increase in probability if the market continues to rally with liquidity efforts and new asset bubbles begin to appear. The rallies coincidence with the operation in Georgia which had the marks of a Bushco calculated event lends some credibility to this as well as the first scenario.
3. Goldilocks is back in town: The US economy is ahead of the rest of the world in getting past its credit crisis and restoring soundness to its financial system. The recession will be mild and short lived. The markets are anticipating the US advantage of grossly distorting its economic statistics versus Europe's relative honest reporting. This is a low probability.
   
   The data just does not support an improving economy in the forseeable future. Ben and Hank will botch the rescue effort required for this scenario and activate scenario 2, handing the next president a serious problem. If its McCain we'll just go to war to take our minds off our problems. If its Obama, we'll have a lot of fireside chats to keep us warm in the winter winds that blow through our ruined economy.
4. Prelude to a Crash: Premature to discuss further unless the stock market reverses hard in a 'rally that fails.' Then the probability may move very quickly from low to high if we see the 'right moves.' It has a nice cynical irony to it as well. But unlikely as of now.

We'll have to see what happens to assess the situation further. But it is apparent that the US financial system is badly in need of reform and responsible adult supervision. Truth, accountability, and vigilant justice are among the commodities in the shortest supply.




Posted by Jesse at 3:53 PM - http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspo...dollar-and.html

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The Endgame Nears For Fannie and Freddie

By Barrons Aug. 16, 2008

IT MAY BE CURTAINS SOON FOR THE MANAGEMENTS and shareholders of beleaguered housing giants

It is growing increasingly likely that the Treasury will recapitalize Fannie and Freddie in the months ahead on the taxpayer's dime, availing itself of powers granted it under the new housing bill signed into law last month. Such a move almost certainly would wipe out existing holders of the agencies' common stock, with preferred shareholders and even holders of the two entities' $19 billion of subordinated debt also suffering losses. Barron's first raised the possibility of a government takeover of Fannie and Freddie in a March 10 cover story, "Is Fannie Mae Toast?"

Heaven knows, the two government-sponsored enterprises, or GSEs, both need resuscitation. Soaring mortgage delinquencies and foreclosures have led the companies to gush red ink for the past four quarters, and their managements concede the outlook is even grimmer well into next year. Shares of Fannie Mae (ticker: FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE) have lost around 90% of their value in the past year, with Fannie now trading at $7.91, and Freddie at $5.88.

Similarly, the balance sheets of both companies have been destroyed. On a fair-value basis, in which the value of assets and liabilities is marked to immediate-liquidation value, Freddie would have had a negative net worth of $5.6 billion as of June 30, while Fannie's equity eroded to $12.5 billion from a fair value of $36 billion at the end of last year. That $12.5 billion isn't much of a cushion for a $2.8 trillion book of owned or guaranteed mortgage assets.
What's more, the fair-value figures reported by the companies may overstate the value of their assets significantly. By some calculations each company is around $50 billion in the hole. But more on that later.

Bringing Fannie and Freddie to heel will be difficult for the Bush administration, despite the GSEs' (Government-Sponsored Enterprises') parlous financial condition. Consider their history. In the early 1980s Fannie was effectively insolvent, but the government allowed it to continue operating. Eventually long-term interest rates dropped, bolstering the value of the company's mortgages and bringing it back from the brink. Earlier in the current decade Fannie and Freddie successfully fought a full-scale attempt by the White House and some brave Republican legislators to clamp down on their operations, after they were caught perpetrating accounting frauds.
Note, too, that Fannie and Freddie have nonpareil lobbying operations and formidable political strength, owing to their hefty donations and penchant for hiring former political operatives. Besides, the agencies claim they've landed in their current predicament through no fault of their own. As Freddie Mac Chairman and CEO Richard Syron recently put it, the GSEs have been hit by a "100-year storm" in the housing market, accentuated by some higher-risk mortgages that they were forced to buy to meet government affordable-housing targets.

The latter contention is more than disingenuous. A substantial portion of Fannie's and Freddie's credit losses comes from $337 billion and $237 billion, respectively, of Alt-A mortgages that the agencies imprudently bought or guaranteed in recent years to boost their market share. These are mortgages for which little or no attempt was made to verify the borrowers' income or net worth. The principal balances were much higher than those of mortgages typically made to low-income borrowers. In short, Alt-A mortgages were a hallmark of real-estate speculation in the ex-urbs of Las Vegas or Los Angeles, not predatory lending to low-income folks in the inner cities.
In the current bailout the Bush administration is playing from strength. Not only have the GSEs' stocks been decimated, but trading in their debt -- whether the $1.6 trillion of corporate obligations or $3.6 trillion of mortgage-backed securities the two have guaranteed -- would have been in disarray had the recent housing bill not made explicit the U.S. government's backing of that debt. Even so, GSE debt spreads are starting to widen, relative to Treasury yields.

An insider in the Bush administration tells Barron's Fannie and Freddie are being jawboned by the Treasury Department and their new regulator, the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), to raise more equity. But government officials don't expect the agencies to succeed.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...-AAA215724943}

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17.08.08 19:57 Uhr |
News-ID: 723264

Schweiz: In den letzten fünf Jahren wurden acht Babys zu Tode geschüttelt

Der Kinderarzt Ulrich Lips aus Zürich hat zusammen mit dem Bund Schweizer Kinderärzte 2002 angefangen, Kopfverletzungen bei Babys genauer zu untersuchen, um festzustellen, ob ein Kind totgeschüttelt wurde.

Bis zur Mitte des Jahres 2007 wurden 53 Verdachtsfälle gemeldet: 50 Säuglinge wurden tatsächlich heftig geschüttelt. Von diesen Fällen starben acht Kinder. 20 % dieser Babys werden mit schweren Behinderungen leben müssen und ein Drittel wird leicht behindert bleiben.

Ein weiteres Drittel von den 50 Babys hat das Schütteltrauma unbeschadet überlebt. Im Durchschnitt lag das Alter der Säuglinge bei etwa sieben Monaten. Es soll allerdings auch eine Dunkelziffer geben, aus 13 Kantonen kam keine Meldung. Kinderarzt Lips glaubt nicht, dass es in den letzten fünf Jahren dort keinen einzigen Fall gab.
http://www.shortnews.de/start.cfm?id=723264

...es sollen meistens Männer/Väter gewesen sein - völlig entnervt ob des BabySchreiens, wobei kaum eine böse Absicht dahinter stecke
laut schweiz. Nachrichten soll das im europäischen Durchschnitt liegen und Aufklärung sei notwendig

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