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Die Kommentare haben etwas, das heisst der Grossteil darunter. Andere US-Veteranen sehen das wohl anders:

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Hillary Clinton's Ruthless Campaign

By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet
January 31, 2008

Democrats have long complained that they need a presidential candidate who knows how to fight and win.

On Tuesday night, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, flew to Florida for a "victory rally" in a state that was awarding no delegates, because it was penalized by national party officials for holding an unauthorized early primary. Last summer, she and the other candidates pledged not to campaign in the Sunshine State. Still, Clinton held the rally, declaring victory on national television. Millions of people in the 22 states who will vote next Tuesday probably saw her, not knowing the Florida vote was moot. And in Florida, Clinton pledged to seat its delegates at the Democratic National Convention.

"Hillary won the highest turnout Democratic primary in Florida history," her website gushed, on a page giving daily talking points to supporters. "Hillary received more votes in Florida than Sen. (John) McCain, the winner of the Republican primary. Hillary also received more votes in Florida alone than Sen. (Barack) Obama received in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina."

If Clinton's boast makes you grimace -- she also charged that Sen. Barack Obama, D-IL, was first to break the DNC's no-campaigning pledge by running a national cable ad that was seen in Florida and by getting good press after winning big in South Carolina -- then these brazen moves give a very clear view of Clinton's leadership style. Regardless of her center-left positions on issues, Hillary Clinton is fighting to win.

In fact, there may be no better illustration of the divide-and-conquer style of politics that Obama seeks to overcome than the tactics of his most aggressive rival, Hillary Clinton.

"The (Florida) vote turned out to be more than symbolic," Mark Penn, Clinton's chief strategist said in an e-mail Tuesday night, spinning the result. "Well over 1.5 million Democrats cast their ballots, more than twice the number of voters who came out to vote in the 2004 primary. Most of the voters in Florida fully expect that their votes will not be wasted again -- they (expect) to have a voice at the convention, and Hillary has asked her delegates to support their being seated."

Penn omitted any mention of labor union organizing for Clinton in Florida, which could be construed as a violation of the no-campaigning pledge. In contrast, Obama did not use major surrogates in the state. While no campaign can control all of its supporters, candidate Obama stayed away.

Such finessing of the nominating process was not Clinton's first attempt to win delegates with the help of state party officials. In New Hampshire, Democratic officials helped to block Obama volunteers from observing who signed in to vote at precincts -- thwarting their get-out-the-vote efforts. In Nevada, party officials turned away blue-collar voters at precincts in Las Vegas casinos that were thought to be Obama strongholds, informing clearly upset voters they had to work an afternoon shift that day to participate. Clinton's campaign also gave out a manual telling precinct captains to lock caucus doors a half-hour early. Obama's campaign formally complained to party officials.

But the Clinton campaign does more than bend the rules. It also knows how to distort the results to declare it is en route to winning the nomination. In Nevada, state party officials announced Clinton won the popular vote among its caucus-goers, and the national media duly reported she won the state. But that afternoon, it became clear that Obama actually had won one more delegate than Clinton. There was no correction by party officials. The media mostly reported she won, confusing the popular vote with the delegate count.

The same spinning was used in Florida, where Penn staged a victory rally after the vote -- even though exit polls found voters who had not turned in early ballots were nearly split between Clinton and Obama.

"This result comes after Senator Obama ran TV commercials that reached Florida homes and after the enormous publicity he received for South Carolina and for the Ted Kennedy endorsement," Penn said in his statement that painted the no-delegate state into a major victory while smearing Obama's gains. "Any (Obama) momentum seemed to run out today."

Seasoned and cynical political observers will say presidential politics is not for anyone who is naïve enough to run purely on principle. They say it is not about being honest; it is about winning. And they say the Democratic nominating contest will be a cakewalk compared to the contest with Republicans in the fall, necessitating a strong and seasoned candidate to retake the presidency.

But the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination is no ordinary contest. Obama is running a principle-based, grassroots campaign that rejects established and cynical Washington ways of campaigning to win. So far, Obama's appeal to bring out the best in Americans based on shared common interests has been successful attracting new voters, from young people to independents to Republicans. In short, his run threatens the Democratic careerists who have lined up for Clinton.

Just look at the response by New York NOW to Obama's endorsement by Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-MA, where the local affiliate of the National Organization for Women accused Kennedy of "betraying women" by not standing with Clinton. That was an outburst by a longtime Clinton ally that seeks to share in the spoils after their candidate claws their way to victory, by any means necessary.

Hillary Clinton may be the ruthless campaigner that Democrats lacked in the past two presidential elections. She may know what it takes to win and is deliberately moving toward the nomination step-by-step, manipulating the process on the way. The question raised by the Obama campaign, however, is whether that slippery style of politics is where Democrats -- and Americans -- want to go.

http://www.alternet.org/story/75523/
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Köstlich ! Man mag vom Spiegel halten was man will, aber der eine oder andere hat eine Feder die selbst harte "Politfights" mit etwas Ironie passend abschmeckt...


AUFTRITT IN HOLLYWOOD


Neues Drehbuch für das Demokraten-Traumpaar

Aus Los Angeles berichtet Gregor Peter Schmitz

Wenige Tage vor dem wichtigsten Abstimmungstag der US-Vorwahlen sind Experten ratlos, ob Barack Obama oder Hillary Clinton die Nase vorn hat. Beim letzten TV-Duell starteten beide eine Charmeoffensive - als mögliches Traum-Team wollen sie deswegen aber noch lange nicht gelten.

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URL: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...,532466,00.html

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...wäre wirklich einfach nur wer Pres/Vice es müsste so was wie "ein Jahr er/sie - ein Jahr sie/er" geben
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Der Anfang vom Ende eines der zwei Kronfavoriten auf Seiten der GOP ?

Romney aims for a split in California

By GLEN JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
Sat Feb 2, 2:00 AM ET


DENVER - Republican Mitt Romney is conceding the bulk of the Northeast to rival John McCain, counting instead on his home state of Massachusetts, a split in California and wins in a series of caucus states to extend his presidential campaign beyond Super Tuesday.

Missing from Romney's latest campaign schedule were winner-take-all states of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, which account for 180 of the 1,023 delegates at stake. The omissions were telling with voting in 21 GOP contests on Tuesday.

The former Massachusetts governor was in Colorado Friday and planned to attend the funeral of Mormon church President Gordon B. Hinckley on Saturday in Utah. Romney also scheduled campaign events in Minnesota, Illinois, Missouri, Tennessee, Georgia and West Virginia before arriving home Tuesday.

Colorado and Minnesota are caucuses states where a grass-roots effort could help secure a win, while West Virginia will award its delegates at a convention Romney plans to address before flying to Massachusetts to both vote and await the returns.

Romney has also deployed four of his five sons to Maine, Montana and Idaho, which hold caucuses on Saturday and Tuesday, and Alaska, which has a party convention on Tuesday.

If he fails to capture enough delegates to offset McCain's likely wins in other states and strong showing in California, where the Arizona senator has the backing of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Romney could end his campaign in Boston on Wednesday.

During a news conference Friday outside a Ford dealership here, he passed up three opportunities to declare he would carry on if he fails to surpass McCain in the Super Tuesday voting.

"I really thought it would all be over, you know, early in January, and now we're going to go into February, and I just can't predict what will happen in February," he said, "so we'll see what happens."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080202/ap_on_el_pr/romney
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Super Tuesday - Super Staates

McCain has edge in GOP, polls say

Steven Thomma, McClatchy Newspapers

Republican John McCain leads in all four corners of the country heading into a rush of primaries Tuesday, while Democrats Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama were locked in a close struggle for delegates coast to coast, according to a new series of McClatchy-MSNBC polls.
With many Republican contests winner-take-all delegate bonanzas, the surveys suggest that McCain could emerge with a commanding lead for the Republican nomination.

The regional taste of the 22 Democratic contests suggests that Clinton and Obama will carve up the country, each emerging with a big block of delegates and the nomination far from clear.

And in each of these regional bellwether states, at least 10 percent of Democratic voters remained undecided.

"For the Republicans, McCain is clearly the front-runner. He's ahead in every state," said Brad Coker, the managing partner of Mason-Dixon Polling & Research, which conducted the nine polls.

"For the Democrats, [Clinton's] ahead everywhere except Georgia. But the leads aren't so big that it's a slam-dunk."

Indeed, as primaries have shown throughout this volatile year, the actual vote can differ greatly from polls as voters change their minds or surge to the vote in numbers that overwhelm expectations.

ROMNEY WINS MAINE

Mitt Romney coasted to a win in presidential preference voting by Maine Republicans on Saturday, claiming his third victory in a caucus state and fourth overall. He had 52 percent of the vote with 68 percent of the towns holding caucuses reporting.
John McCain trailed with 21 percent, Ron Paul was third with 19 percent, and Mike Huckabee had 6 percent. Undecided votes accounted for 2 percent. The nonbinding votes are the first step to electing 18 Maine delegates

DEMOCRATIC RACES

ARIZONA
Clinton, 43 percent
Obama, 41 percent
undecided, 13 percent

CALIFORNIA
Clinton, 45 percent
Obama, 36 percent
undecided, 16 percent

GEORGIA
Obama, 47 percent
Clinton, 41 percent
undecided, 10 percent

MISSOURI
Clinton, 47 percent
Obama, 41 percent
undecided, 10 percent

NEW JERSEY
Clinton, 46 percent
Obama, 39 percent
undecided, 12 percent

REPUBLICAN RACES

CALIFORNIA
McCain, 40 percent
Romney, 31 percent
Huckabee, 13 percent
Ron Paul, 3 percent
undecided, 11 percent

GEORGIA
McCain, 33 percent
Romney, 27 percent
Huckabee, 18 percent
Paul, 4 percent
undecided, 17 percent

MISSOURI
McCain, 37 percent
Huckabee, 27 percent
Romney, 24 percent
Paul, 1 percent
undecided, 11 percent

NEW JERSEY
McCain, 46 percent
Romney, 31 percent
Huckabee, 5 percent
Paul, 4 percent
undecided, 12 percent

conducted by telephone Jan. 30-Feb. 1. The margin of error was plus or minus five percentage points.
http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/920176.html

Alle diese Vorwahlen sind bei den Demokraten Proporzwahlen, bei der GOP "winner takes it all", da zählt einzig der Sieg und sonst nichts

Eines steht für mich schon vor dem 5. Februar fest: McCaine wird der Kandidat der GOP sein im Herbst, möglicherweise mit einem Vize Giuliani. Huckabee und Paul sind in der Bedeutungslosigkeit angekommen, endgültig.

Bei den Demokraten könnte es dagegen selbst nach dem 5. Februar noch offen sein und so bleiben bis auch Ohio und Texas am 4. März folgen

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03. Februar 2008

SUPER TUESDAY

Obama und Clinton liefern sich Kopf-an-Kopf-Rennen


Washington - Das Rennen zwischen den demokratischen Präsidentschaftsbewerbern Barack Obama und Hillary Clinton wird neuen Umfragen zufolge immer spannender. Zwei Tage vor dem Super Tuesday hat der Senator seine Konkurrentin in vielen Bundesstaaten eingeholt - und in Kalifornien überholt.

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Obama & Clinton Deadlocked in Massachusetts

2/4/2008

Barack Obama (46 percent) leads Hillary Clinton (44 percent) by a razor-thin margin among likely Democratic voters, according to a poll released today by 7NEWS/Suffolk University. Seven percent of Democratic and independent voters were undecided. However, 27 percent of Democratic voters and 24 percent of Republican voters say they may change their minds before tomorrow.

Obama was strong among men (49 percent-to-30 percent), independents (43 percent-to-35 percent), in Middlesex & Essex counties (46 percent-to-36 percent) and among voters ages 18-45 years (55 percent-to-31 percent). Clinton’s areas of strength contrasted sharply with Obama’s: She led among women (52 percent-to-35 percent), in the Worcester/West area (52 percent-to-34 percent) and among voters ages 66 years and up (59 percent-to-26 percent).

http://www.suffolk.edu/26798.html

Wird wohl wirklich die spannendste Vorwahl die es seit langem gab, plus/minus 2-3% ist schlicht in jeglicher statistischen Fehlerquote drin und bei der Anzahl an noch nicht festgelegten Wählern bedeutungslos. Nur eines ist klar: Obama hat deutlich aufgeholt zur Vorwoche und die Wahrscheinlichkeit dass sich bei den Demokraten am 5. Februar noch nichts entscheidet wird immer grösser...
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wow, whats happening.. record turnouts everywhere


http://www.democraticunderground.co...ess=132x4409992
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Clinton, Obama Split States, Delegates

Obama Wins Kan, Ill., Ga., Ala., Del., N.D., Minn., Conn., Colo., Mo., Idaho & Utah

Clinton Takes Ark., Okla., Tenn., Mass., N.J., N.Y. & Ariz.

McCain Racks Up Big State Victories

McCain Wins N.J., N.Y., Okla., Conn., Ill., Del. & Ariz.

Huckabee Takes W.Va., Ark., Ala., Tenn. & Ga.

Romney Wins Mass., Utah, N.D., Minn., Mon. & Colo.

Noch offen Kalifornien

Total Delegate Count

Democrats | 2,025 Needed to Clinch
CLINTON 740
OBAMA 629

Republicans | 1,191 Needed to Clinch
MCCAIN 415
ROMNEY 128
HUCKABEE 117

http://www.cbsnews.com/

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Nachdem alles ausgezählt ist und die Delegierten verteilt wird das Bild auf der einen Seite klarer, auf der anderen noch weniger.


Bei der GOP ist McCain praktisch durch die Ziellinie und Romney ist wohl der grosse Verlierer des Super Tuesdays, Huckabee hat ihm dazu ein paar Staaten zuviel abgenommen.

Dagegen ist es bei den Demokraten beinahe das perfekte Patt, einzig durch die Superdelegierten hat Clinton die Nase vorn. Dagegen liegt sie bei den durch das Volk gewählten hinter Obama. Clinton hatte eigentlich Glück mit New York und Kalifornien zwei Schwergewichte gewonnen zu haben, ansonsten sähe das Bild wesentlich anders aus...
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Clinton lends her campaign $5 million

By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer
10 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton loaned her campaign $5 million late last month as Barack Obama outraised and outspent her in the Democratic presidential race.

"The loan illustrates Senator Clinton's commitment to this effort and to ensuring that our campaign has the resources it needs to compete and win across this nation," Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said.

Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign, lagging far behind Barack Obama's fundraising this year, expects to be outspent by Obama in upcoming Democratic nominating contests just as it was in Feb. 5 states, her strategists conceded Wednesday.

Officials with both campaigns have said Obama raised $32 million in January and that Clinton raised $13.5 million, a significant gap between the two that allowed Obama to place ads in virtually every Super Tuesday state and to get a head start on advertising in primaries and caucuses over the next week.

In a teleconference with reporters, Clinton chief strategist Mark Penn said Clinton was having a "record day" raising money over the Internet on Wednesday.

"We will have funds to compete," he said, "but we're likely to be outspent again."............

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080206.../campaign_money

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GOP sources: Romney to suspend campaign

(CNN) -- Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney will suspend his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, GOP sources tell CNN.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is expected to suspend his campaign Thursday, sources say.

A candidate may "suspend" his or her campaign rather than dropping out, and technically remain a candidate. In this case, he or she is entitled to keep any statewide pledged delegates as well as their district-level delegates.

Candidates who officially drop out must forfeit statewide delegates.

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Obama Campaign Raises More Than $6 million Post Super Tuesday

By Sarah Lai Stirland February 06, 2008 | 1:58:12 AMCategories: Election '08


Illinois senator Barack Obama raised more than $6 million since the polls closed on Super Tuesday, matching the one-day fund-raising record set by Texas Republican congressman Ron Paul in December.

That's according to a widget on Obama's blog, which as of 10.27 pm Wednesday night showed that the senator's campaign had raised $6.23 million. The widget is updated almost instantaneously as donations pour in.

Supporters responded to a late afternoon fund-raising e-mail sent out by Obama campaign manager David Plouffe that said that the campaign had raised $3 million post Super Tuesday, but that the it needed to match the $5 million that rival Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had loaned her own campaign in January.

That $5 million was made to supplement the $13 million that Clinton raised that month. Obama raised more than double that amount with $32 million -- the majority of which came through the Internet.

Plouffe said in his e-mail that 650,000 people in all have donated to Obama's campaign.

The two candidates are deadlocked in a heat in the contest to win the Democratic nomination for president, and they need to campaign and advertise extensively in the upcoming primaries to give themselves a decisive edge.

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